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First time voice recording preceded animation

Around the film's 2001 release, I recall hearing it was a breakthrough as the first animated film in which the voice actors were recorded before the animation so the latter was synched to the former, creating more authentic-appearing visuals. If this is true, the page needs a reference to incorporate this information. I didn't find it mentioned in Faxinate.com's "42 Animated Facts about Pixar" -- Deborahjay (talk) 08:31, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

You must be misremembering. That's long been standard practice in animation.

For instance in Aladdin, Robin Williams ad-libed a large portion of his lines. He couldn't have done that if the animation had already been set. ApLundell (talk) 16:38, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

That's a convincing example, with Aladdin (1992 Disney film) preceding Monsters, Inc. by nearly a decade. The relevant section, Aladdin (1992 Disney film)#Design and animation, paragraph before last, notes this exact point without dating the process, but clearly even the only innovation noted is the extensive ad-libbing recorded by actor Robin Williams voicing the Genie. -- Deborahjay (talk) 16:44, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Yeti's inspiration

Is Yeti exactly inspired by the Bumble the abominable snow monster of the north from the 1964 Christmas TV special of Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey (talk • contribs)

@Clrichey: the source we have in the article doesn't say so. You would need to cite a independent, published source that says this, in order to add it to the article. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 00:36, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2020

Regarding "The name was suggested by an animator who had attended Texas A&M University, inspired by one of Texas A&M's historic icons, Lawrence Sullivan Ross, nicknamed 'Sulley' by students." - This is unconfirmed and either needs supporting citation or removal. The director of the Texas A&M University Department of Visualization (Viz Lab) has acknowledged Pixar has not confirmed the Monsters Inc character is named after L. Sullivan Ross, and local newspaper for the area around Texas A&M reports the claim as an urban myth (link - https://www.theeagle.com/news/local/models-of-monsters-inc-characters-on-display-at-texas-a-ms-langford-building-c/article_b848bc5d-051e-5e16-ae56-c729ce6f9163.html).

However, if a supporting citation is found for the claim, the nickname for Lawrence Sullivan Ross should be changed from "Sulley" to "Sully". This is the nickname for L. Sullivan Ross used by the students as well as the university in official language. 64.67.83.36 (talk) 22:36, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The link you provided is heavily redacted and only shows students putting pennies at the feet of the Monster. Can you provide sources for your request please as it states in the instructions? Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 18:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2020

Fixed spelling in plot summary. 174.255.67.204 (talk) 19:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: Please be more specific. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 20:16, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Mike Wazowski Meme

Would it be appropriate to add a mention somewhere about the meme based on Mike Wazowski? DiscoStu42 (talk) 21:37, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Production of Monsters, Inc

Production of Monsters, Inc actually commenced in May 1999 following the end of production of Toy Story 2, not sometime in 2000 as previously stated. It also mentions that early in the production of Monsters, Inc, that Pixar moved to Emeryville from Port Richmond, which was in November 2000. By then, the trailer had already been launched one month prior in October 2000, with the release of Toy Story 2 on home video and online.

The first picture of Monsters, Inc was revealed in August 2000, which was also when the voice actors and characters were confirmed. The casting of Steve Buscemi was actually rumoured since the production of the movie began in May 1999. This would also mean that production of Monsters, Inc was midway at this point, and half the film was produced in Port Richmond and the other half of the film was produced in Emeryville. Could someone please add this information to the page.

References

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2021

Mindy Kaling replaced Kelly Marie Tran as Val Little. 70.27.107.222 (talk) 02:28, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Run n Fly (talk) 15:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

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Continuous changes to plot

Hello! So i've noticed that people are constantly changing the plot and then eventually it just gets reverted. What are some policies that apply to what can and can't be in the plot? ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 15:49, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

The only real policy at play is WP:NOT#PLOT that plots should be concise. MOS:FILM sets the standard to be between 400 and 700 words for a feature film, so when plot summaries are expanded, they are usually going beyond that. WP:WAF also is a guideline for how plot summaries should be approached as encyclopedic content rather than a fan-based description. --Masem (t) 15:59, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2022

The word “released” in one of the introductory paragraphs (“Upon its released…”) should instead say “release.” 68.198.95.139 (talk) 18:57, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:58, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2022

At the end of the fourth paragraph in the "Plot" section, "in the human" is repeated twice. 50.223.41.130 (talk) 20:25, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

 Done - thanks for pointing that out. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:30, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Trailer attached to 102 Dalmatians???

I found the trailer requests from 2000 when 102 Dalmatians was in theaters and Monsters Inc was not listed as an included trailer. The studio inclusions were Emperor's New Groove (Attached) & Santa Clause 2/Recess: Schools Out were enclosed. Can anyone confirm or deny Monsters Inc being on that list?? 2600:6C46:6800:21F8:DD5C:E3B5:5195:F9C9 (talk) 02:12, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Stolen Basic Concept and Main Character Designs

At an interview at Pixar before the movie was made the character designs for the two main characters and basic concept were presented to a Pixar employee.The employee later indicated there was no job opportunity. The only thing that seemed to change with the main characters design was the addition of ‘fur’ to the lead character. At one point John Lasseter had taken credit claiming he came up with the idea at a lunch. Which was false. Today the Wikipedia claims a number of people were involved in the creation of Monsters Inc. This would have been after the original concept was stolen along with the designs for the two main characters. And various people enjoying the success of the project have been claiming they created it ever since. Adding insult to injury the sidekick to the main character was named ‘Mikey’. Spitting in the face of the original creator. Mslisko (talk) 02:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Source? Or are you talking about the Stanley Mouse case that is listed in the Lawsuit section already? Masem (t) 02:56, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Identifying Genre

I’m of the opinion that the genre listed for Monsters, Inc. is currently incorrect. The page identifies the film as a “computer-animated monster comedy film.” The part that I take issue with is calling it a “monster movie.” Wikipedia currently defines a monster movie as “a film that focuses on one or more characters struggling to survive attacks by one or more antagonistic monsters, often abnormally large ones.” I think it’s pretty safe to say that Monsters, Inc. doesn’t fit that description. In my opinion, either the genre on this page should be tweaked or the scope of the definition of monster movie should be expanded.

Furthermore, I’d like to propose a replacement genre: thriller. The thriller is described as “a broad film genre that evokes excitement and suspense in the audience,” and I think Monsters, Inc. fits this definition to a tee. The plot involves unraveling a conspiracy to kidnap children and forcibly extract screams from them to power their city. This conspiracy involves multiple employees of the company as well as the CEO himself. The film hinges on many suspenseful scenes, including, but not limited to: the opening scaring scene (until the slapstick); the scene in Sulley and Mike’s apartment where they have to stop Boo from crying before the CDA catches them; several chase scenes involving Randall; several scenes involving hiding from Randall while Sulley and/or Mike learn more details about his plan; the scene where Randall is invisible and attacking Sulley (including choking him); and the climax where Waternoose chases Sulley while he tries to return Boo home. With all of this in mind, I think the film fits in with other works in the sub-genre of comedy thriller. I’m curious to see what others think about this. 2603:8001:8404:54D6:156B:E735:DE31:A326 (talk) 01:09, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

We are not supposed to use our opinions and personal evaluation to tag films with genres, we are supposed to use what reliable sources most commonly say the genres are. See MOS:FILMGENRE. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:20, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Geraldo, you are quite correct. My apologies, I’m new to this and ignorant of Wikipedia’s policies. I personally think the consensus is incorrect but I have no business going against policy to remedy that. 2603:8001:8404:54D6:156B:E735:DE31:A326 (talk) 01:31, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

If the current genres listed don't match what reliable sources say they should be changed to what the sources support and can be referenced. Box Office Mojo calls it "Adventure Animation Comedy Family Fantasy". AFI calls it "Children's works, Comedy". I think Comedy is supported, Monster isn't by sources I checked. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:56, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

IMBD: Animation, Adventure, Comedy

Rotten Tomatoes: Kids & Family, Comedy, Fantasy, Adventure, Animation

Disney.com: Adventure, Animation, Comedy, Family

Metacritic: Adventure, Fantasy, Comedy, Animation, Family

Amazon: Animation, Comedy, Fantasy, Adventure, Kids

Turner Classic Movies: Adventure, Comedy

It seems like there might be enough consensus to support the adventure genre and possibly the fantasy genre, although I don’t personally agree with those distinctions either. I’m not sure what we would consider to be “reliable sources” and what we wouldn’t. 2603:8001:8404:54D6:156B:E735:DE31:A326 (talk) 02:20, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Those are generally reliable, ones used in the article currently are best. In general see WP:Reliable sources and WP:RSNP for some guidance. The primary genre that is well supported is "comedy". Fantasy could be added but we don't want more than one or two - just the primary genre is supposed to go in lead. I think we should just stick with comedy. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:37, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

You are correct again, Geraldo. MOS:FILMGENRE does mention to list “the primary genre or sub-genre under which it is verifiably classified.” I agree to stick with just comedy, as there seems to be slightly more consensus for that than adventure. Thanks for your help. 2603:8001:8404:54D6:156B:E735:DE31:A326 (talk) 02:47, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Improvement proposal

Hello everyone.

I know that the fact that I write here anonymously seems strange, so I clarify that I'm a user who has gained experience in contributing to this Wikipedia as well as in others, mainly in Spanish Wikipedia. If you see in the contribution history that "I vandalized several years ago", let me clarify that Wikipedia IPs are constantly changing over a period of time and therefore I am not the same person using the IP.

On the Spanish Wikipedia, this article is being nominated for a Featured Article (and what a great job), and the reviewers fully supported its nomination. I visit this article in this Wikipedia and I see that this article is a good old article, because there are some referencing problems (such as finding better citations and unreliability), so I propose that we improve the article, totally based on the version in Spanish, and, in the end, we seek to accredit the "translation".

I hope someone (or some) intends to do it, because I can't because I'm very busy. 186.29.227.74 (talk) 23:05, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Boo's age

Contradiction: Voice cast section says "Boo, a two-year-old", but Writing section says "settled on the age of 3". Which is it? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Scratch that, the sources corroborated the latter. An IP changed it a long time ago. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:47, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Banish or Exile

While the WP:STATUSQUO version is "exile", the film itself is "banish" (i.e. Mike telling Sulley about a potential banishment and later saying "We're banished, genius!" after Waternoose sends them to the human world in this film, the Abominable Snowman warning Mike and Sulley that tampering with the mail is punishable by banishment in Monsters University, etc.). According to their definitions in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, both exile and banish are synonyms.

I've been wondering about something: does anyone know how secondary sources typically describe it as? One source I came across (Syfy) describes it as "banish", while the soundtrack listing describes it as "exile". However, a ScreenRant source for Monsters at Work lists it as both "exile" and "banishment". Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

I'd go with what is in the source material - the film itself, ignoring anything that is not the film. They are generally synonyms but the words have slightly different connotations and I assume the film chose the wording deliberately. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)